tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13260386.post117328876792323972..comments2024-03-13T06:54:20.063-05:00Comments on Weight of the Evidence: Bad Science - Good PublicityUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13260386.post-1173370502541309612007-03-08T10:15:00.000-06:002007-03-08T10:15:00.000-06:00I've known plenty of people very highly motivated ...I've known plenty of people very highly motivated to lose weight who fail and although they aren't real open about it (since of course, it's your fault and not the diet's that it failed), I can guess at the emotional devastation when a diet fails. It takes a lot of courage and a huge brain shift to accept Atkins as a healthy, successful way of eating. I was sure I'd be dead of cancer in a few months when I started Atkins, but I was desperate. I remember reading Fran McCullough's Good Fat Book through three times and struggling to get it all to sink in and make sense. It's obvious now, but it sure wasn't at the time. Regina's right -- it takes a lot of hand-holding to make Atkins really work long-term and population-wide, especially given all of the misinformation out there that people take as gospel truth about nutrition and health.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13260386.post-1173362253679289912007-03-08T07:57:00.000-06:002007-03-08T07:57:00.000-06:00If I had been in the study I would have been ticke...If I had been in the study I would have been ticked about not being able to choose which eating plan to follow. But that is the way of science. <BR/>I'm an emotional eater---which plays havoc with even the best eating plans. Following LC WOL allows me to feed my emotional hunger and NOT gain weight. Some of fastest weight loss periods were when I was eating the most calories.BGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17518968315887863047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13260386.post-1173325373086690522007-03-07T21:42:00.000-06:002007-03-07T21:42:00.000-06:00okay, i'll say this: on diets where adherence was ...okay, i'll say this: on diets where adherence was poor participants on the lc diet still lost twice as much weight as any other group along with improving biomarkers for health.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13260386.post-1173319339710479862007-03-07T20:02:00.000-06:002007-03-07T20:02:00.000-06:00Regina - a $2 mil study covering four diets for a ...Regina - a $2 mil study covering four diets for a year is probably a lot of buck for the dollar. The proviso that people were largely left to their own devices is of course a negative, but in one sense provides some good info. People don't follow diets. None of my friends who introduced me to Atkins are still on them. The only person to whom I gave the Willett book who used the information were my son and DinL, neither of whom needed to lose weight, but liked the info. <BR/><BR/>I'm really happy I was not enrolled and assigned to Ornish! <BR/><BR/>RobRLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13850927095383579725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13260386.post-1173310379915729652007-03-07T17:33:00.000-06:002007-03-07T17:33:00.000-06:00Ah, me. I'd pick the bacon and brie. With a nice C...Ah, me. I'd pick the bacon and brie. With a nice Chianti. :)<BR/><BR/>Seriously, you want to talk compliance? I've been eating Atkins for 3 1/2 years now, and this has been the easiest way of eating I've ever experienced. Sure, I've done other things that long. There was the binge/starve cycle from my teens. The drug suppression of hunger, which went from Dexatrim to rather, shall we say, harder stuff, in my twenties. The eat low fat & exercise an hour and a half a day, every day, in my thirties. And now, compliance that doesn't take an iron will.<BR/><BR/>Every one of my previous attempts came to naught, because previously I was fighting a natural impulse. That of hunger. And I'm good. I'll stack my will up against anyone's. Previously, I was either slim, or not hungry. Now I'm slim and not hungry. And that has all the other options beat.<BR/><BR/>I've known people who've done Weight Watchers, Ornish, and Pritikin. I've tried them myself. I didn't last, and neither did anyone else I knew. Because they were always hungry. That bone-deep ravenous beast that is not appeased by another helping of pasta with low fat sauce, or a salad with nonfat dressing, or yet another rice cake. I would eat those things, and an hour later I was ready to eat a can of anything. Can and all. Because my hunger would not go away, eating those ways.<BR/><BR/>And that is why the pitiful populace is so overweight, and tired, and sick. Because the way they are being told to eat makes them hungry. And keeps them hungry. And sooner or later, the beast must be fed.<BR/><BR/>Look at the commercials for food! What do they emphasize? "You'll be full!" "Lots of courses!" "Satisfy your inner whatever!" So people eat, and eat, and eat. Because, like me, they are still hungry after.<BR/><BR/>And that has always been the compliance problem. Sure, there's cooking problems, and time problems, and my family will only eat whatsis problems, but the biggest problem, always, is hunger.<BR/><BR/>You can put it off for a day, a week, a month. But not for too long.<BR/><BR/>The beast must be fed.WereBearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17746779803342657146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13260386.post-1173294617441415742007-03-07T13:10:00.000-06:002007-03-07T13:10:00.000-06:00"[i]t's a lot easier to follow a diet that tells y..."[i]t's a lot easier to follow a diet that tells you to eat bacon and brie than to eat predominantly fruits and vegetables."<BR/><BR/>This comment by Ornish is Hogwash, IMHO. If I were given a choice of eating nothing but bacon and brie or nothing but fruits and vegetables, I'd pick the fruits and vegetables in a heartbeat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13260386.post-1173290021653067092007-03-07T11:53:00.000-06:002007-03-07T11:53:00.000-06:00People don't keep with these diets because they do...People don't keep with these diets because they don't want to. They can have all the help and support in the world, but they first and foremost NEED TO WANT TO BE ON THIS DIET IN A COMPLETELY PERSONAL WAY. they need to want to be on it more than they want foods that are familiar, foods that are easy to prepare, foods that are the daily specials in restaurants, foods that are tasty in the sense of being carb/fat combos, foods that friends and family like/want.<BR/><BR/>You can be supportive and knowlegeable (I have been supportive and a source of knowlege to a number of people), and they will either take the diet ball and personally run with it, because they deep down inside want what this diet can do for them, or they will whine "how do you stick with it".<BR/><BR/>This post says "people need motivation and a desire to lose weight". Well, Virginia, there is not a fat person in the world who lacks a desire to lose weight. You do not get motivated by knowing your options and having information. You get motivated by picking one of the low carb diets and running with the ball in a totally committed way-- counting carbs faithfully, learning about the right foods and supplements to buy, biting the bullet and opening the wallet for this expensivie stuff, making foods at home, getting every scrap of exercise your schedule allows, ignoring jealous naysaying coworkers/family members. <BR/><BR/>you don't need more diet studies to show you what you need to do, and handholding only goes so far. you need personal determination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com